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Do electronic devices like cell phones, ipods, pagers and cameras belong in the classroom? As part of a new proposed rule, the State Board of Education now wants to require all schools to adopt an Electronic Device Policy. While most state schools (public and charters) have cell phone policies, the board wants a say in what the policy implements. Board members say they don't necessarily want schools to ban cell phones, but believe they can be a dangerous tool...
Nude cell phone pictures passed around (Davis County case), text bullying and even cheating. These are the inappropriate uses of a cell phone that the board are concerned about. 
I talked to students and teachers at East High School today to get their feelings on the issue (live at 5). The school already has its own policy in place. If the board passes the policy rule in November, ALL state schools will be required to have an electronic device policy in place...
Thoughts anyone? 
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tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 5:26 PM

Kids go to work after High School thinking that a job entails talking and texting all day.

GEEEZ! I wonder where they get such stupid ideas? I even had one assistaant tell me it was "his right" to talk on the phone. I responded your dam right! get the hell gone.

Cell phones should be strictly banned. Any cell phone brought to class should be taken away for the remainder of the year. If the parents dont like it the student should be promptly removed form school for the entire year.

High Schools should start teaching life management and coping skills in which kids can get a clue about what is real. OOOOH but I guess that would take the rights away form the parents who are doing such a grand job. already.

IDHITIT read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 5:43 PM

Absolutely Cell Phones belong in school. They should be turned off and in their pockets until the ending school bell rings or in case of an emergency.

I'm all in favor of confiscating any cell phone which is out of the childs pocket during school time.. they can have their parent/guardian pick it up at the end of the day at the front office.

My son is in Jr.High and it is my mandatory rule that he carries his phone with him where ever he goes, just in case I need to get a hold of him. He knows it is to remain completely off until the last school bell rings or in case there is some emergency at school.

IDHITIT read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 5:48 PM

I should also note that my son isn't a phone junkie like most kids are these days, I have to remind him to turn the bloody thing on most of the time. I had to create a jingle for him to remember to turn it on.. "When the bell goes off your phone goes on."

malebot read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 6:12 PM

Heck yeah they belong in school. I am a father of two teenage girls and I know what a distraction cell phones can be. I also know I want my kids to be able to call me in an emergency or 911. When I went to school a girl was raped, during the day, on school grounds. Perhaps that wouldn't have happened if she had a cell phone to call for help.

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 6:15 PM

IDHITIT your a funny guy.

I like your jingle very cute.
I am sure your boy is just the sweetest obeying child in the world

Why are you giving kids cell phones to have turned off in class ? What is the point? PLease SPARE me! How did so many kids survive for thousands of years with out that dam phone?

How about if there was jus one concrete rule for everyone so that there wont be any room for miss understanding.

Take the phone away for a day??? are you kdding me??? it comes right back the next day.

IDHITIT You sound just like the typical bone headed parent of the twentieth century America

IDHITIT read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 6:47 PM

How about you join the rest of us in this century TooShort. Or do you make your kids ride to school on a buffalo and take notes with a hammer and chisel?

I think I explained why I wanted my son to have a phone. It's in case of an unforeseen emergency. I've used it several times to tell him I would be late in picking him up so to just stay in the school.

My sons school does have one concrete rule for cell phones. Phones must remain off and unseen during school. It works well.

I guarantee that if I had to go into school to pick up my sons phone more than once it would never happen again. That rule would be to cause the parents an inconvenience to the point they would enforce that the kid follows the rule from then on.
If you're a push-over-parent yes the kid will just do the same thing the next day. A good parent would allow the kid to have the phone the next day but with the fear of god put into them.

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 7:15 PM

Well then! You are convincing. I just dont know though. Why is the school district haveing problmes if everyone is so well behaved?

It just seems like a big problem I see it in the workforce with adults, How can kids be expected to act any better than adults who dont have the sense to keep the phone put away.

You are are telling me how shiny your son is and I cannot argue with it because ther is such thing as shiny kids. I only know that your are out of you mind if you think all those phones are staying in the pockets of all those kids

Why does everyone have to say not me not my kid I am special.

Mariposa_Xochipilli read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 7:39 PM

Ninevah,

The thing that concerns meis the effect such a ban would have on disabled students who need electronic devices to filter out noises so they can concetrate on their education. It would be impossible to get such a device written into an IEP.

Also, student's medical needs aren't always met. Staff thinks nothing of working with a student who is suceptable to bronchitis and pneumonia while the staff member is sick. My daughters' plan specifically said the girls were to be allowed to do their work at home because of the danger from exposure. Not only did staff work with them knowing the consequences, the girls were prevented from calling home to get away from being callously exposed.

A cell phone so they could notify me or the resource officer (who would have made sure they were taken care of) would have fixed that problem real quick.

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2008 | 7:49 PM

you guys are bewildering. How did we ever get by without cell phones. What phone did we use in 1985

IDHITIT read my blog
Oct 3, 2008 | 8:02 PM

I'm not naive enough think all the phones will remain in the kids pockets any more than I think their parents will obey speed limits on their way into work. Rules are rules and people will always break them.

Teachers just need to play cop and put their foot down. If they have to confiscate dozens of phones per day until the kids learn.. so be it.

Oh and my son is special. Not special as in my little angel who would never do wrong. He is special-special.. he is a high functioning autistic.

I know what you're talking about though.. I've been involved in law enforcement for most of my adult life, I know all to well the parents who think their kids can do no wrong.

floatingpoint read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 1:13 AM

Some 'electronic devices' in school are probably necessary. But IMO cell phones are not. All cell phones should be left at some sort of depository during school hours. Any calls or messages will be on the phone at lunch time or at the end of school, so if dad can't make it on time, your kid will still know. If you must call your kid at school, it can be handled the old fashioned way: call the school, they page the student over the intercom. Emergency at school, how many hundreds of people are needed to call for help? LESS people calling 911 at once would be better than everyone calling at once, less confusion.

Mktavish read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2008 | 7:15 AM

They should just blanket the school with some sort of microwave jambing device, rendering cellphones useless.
Oh ya, and I dont believe they should be in school period!!! There are plenty of other real life situations where they ask you to turn them off. School should definately be on that list.
Im a construction worker, and when Im working with someone that is constantly on there phone, it cuts their productivity and mine if I let it. So when I have the say in it, they get fired.

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2008 | 7:35 AM

Finaly some sanity.... AHHHH I can breath finaly... Than you so much for the breath of fresh air MKtavish & floatingpoint

Mariposa_Xochipilli read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 5:08 PM

You'd rather my daughter have collapsed from her cardiac incident? Thanks goodness the resource office was at the school.

Seriously, the principal had REFUSED to call for paramedics claiming my daughter was pretending just to get attention ... just ask Max. The ER doctor didn't she was faking anything.

It had happened a week before, also. The school never bothered to tell us so we could seek proper medical care.

If my daughters had a cell phone, they could have called after the first cardiac incident.

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 5, 2008 | 4:22 AM

Mariposa, your are freaking insane and limiting your self to being locked inside a self defeating box.

I think I am beginning to understand why your seemingly got this intense vandetta going on agains the school over some over emotional shiiit and your expectations of whatever

You have mentioned a little about it and you also talked about someone telling you that you should go to Law School, I assume becuse of your intelect. I agreed and said that, that person was right. I challeeged you to take them up on that suggestion.

Your response: "The profession [law] does not desrve me" I didn not respond to that statement because the statement was in my oppinion a cop out and it painted a picture of a person who is getting more milage from playing a Drama Queen.

I sympothize with your daughters plight, but what we are talking about a building that likly has a surplus of wonderful god fearing good people who would never let anything happen to your prcious little handicapped daughter. I am sure that the building holds as many phones as it does good caring people. Your daughter is in good hands.

IF YOU DONT THINK SO??? if you dont think your daughteris in good hands then why do you have her there in the firt place. You are starting to sound so much like an insincere DRAMA QUEEN!
I have been wondering about you and why you quit commenting or arguing with me and my beliefs... I kind of suspected it could be in part becaues I can see through your B.S. and you know it.

Mariposa you should know that the truth is never mean. the truth is the most caring thing you

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 5, 2008 | 4:24 AM

Mariposa you should know that the truth is never mean. the truth is the most caring thing you can give anyone. If for some reaon I have it all wrong then there is no reason to even get upset in the slightest way about my comments,,, because the comments should bounce off like harmless bouncy balls if they are meritless.

The more my statements may or may not antagonize... well the more they do antagonize the more they are more than likely true... So dont get pissed at me, I am doing people a sevice by highlighting insane B.S. That so many good folks are blind to. What a travesty.

Mariposa are you going to be bitter against the School distict to your dying day, all because of your own issues? The only person it is hurting is you... and all the people in your life that have to listen to you whine, but probably dont have the guts to tell you the truth.

Mariposa_Xochipilli read my blog
Oct 5, 2008 | 11:55 AM

Then look at the documentation instead of libeling me. Find out what the truth is from the district's own documentation.

See if I am bitter or whether I'm simply standing up to corruption. Read the letter that says they weren't going to allow what the doctor had ordered. Look at other documentation.

Are you so arrogant to think that my not responding to you was personal?

Guess what ... the girls aren't in a traditional educational setting anymore. We got them out of that school and are not putting them in traditional education settings. They had originally refused to release the girls, but did it real quick after proof came out that they weren't meeting the girls' needs.

Besides, multiple independent professiomnals have recommended that as well. It isn't just me.

If you are going to quote me, I ask that you do it accurately. I had originally said I was considering starting the process of becoming an attorney after a legislator recommended I do so. After getting closer and seeing what they have to do (undermine people), I decided against it.

tooshortdog read my blog view my photos
Oct 5, 2008 | 12:26 PM

OK THEN kids are out of traditional school and in a better setting.

No need for cell phones then is there... if your daughter has an attack of some kind the teacher being alert will make sure the proper callls get made.

Or are you still insistant that this new establishment is incompentant and unable to perform their duties as well... If this is the case tehn you better hurry and get your kids out of that school also

I still dont see the need for students to have cell phones
You people proclaimeing ot have all these unique and special needs are rediculious

Mariposa_Xochipilli read my blog
Oct 5, 2008 | 8:51 PM

First, I want to apologize to both you and Nineveh. To Nineveh for possibly being rude to someone on her blog; to you for basically the same reason.

Because you said something untrue and uncalled for to me did not mean I had to refer to you as being arrogant - whether you are or not.

The thing is that the school DID NOT notify me or call for medical care when the first cardiac incident happened; the first time the arrhythmia manifested. A cell phone shouldn't ever be necessary ... but sometimes it can be.

It wasn't until after the police officer saw the doctor's orders (the ones the school was refusing to follow) that the girls were allowed an alternative setting. The police officer was less than thrilled at how the school was neglecting documented medical need.

The girls haven't had so much as one cardiac incident since they were removed from that hostile setting. Coincidence ... I think not! None of that excuses a school not protecting the students entrusted to them.

As far as not responding to you, I've been working with an education attorney on a contract that would establish private education at public expense ... what the law calls for and what the Supreme Court has upheld in these circumstances ... without having to go to court or through a due process hearing that would bankrupt us.

It creates a whole new level of dispute resolution apart from IDEA.

Mktavish read my blog view my photos
Oct 6, 2008 | 5:02 AM

Well there is no excuse for how your daughter was neglected at school. But it sounds more like she needs a medical alert device rather than a cell phone.

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